'The Joe Schmo Show' Showrunner Reveals How 'Big Brother' Producers Helped Create That Finale 'Hero Moment' (Exclusive) ...Saudi Arabia

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Behind the scenes, though, was a man perhaps even more important than the on-screen character: Dave Kneebone. The executive producer has cut his teeth on absurdist comedy, having worked on Comedy Bang! Bang!, Nathan for You, and Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! But Joe Schmo was his first foray into something completely different, his first "reality" series. But, for this tightrope act, he was supported on both sides by reality TV veterans: Big Brother showrunners Allison Grodner and Rich Meehan.

"It was playing with an extra ace in your deck," Kneebone tells Parade in an exclusive interview. "Because they come with so much experience. They've seen it all, literally. They've seen it all in terms of how house competition reality shows work, about how the casting process works. They are the top of the class in terms of being veterans in this space, which was new to me. So I relied heavily on their guidance throughout the entire process."

"Everything was riding on the fact that he was going to do this thing and give away the victory," he reveals. "It was Rich Meehan's idea, ultimately, to put the token there with this vase. Assuming that he did this heroic thing, which is to give away the victory to his ally, then he would find this token. Based on kind of the guy he was like, I had full confidence in him by the end of the time. He's a real stand-up guy. As much as in a modern world, things like honor and being a hero, we think of as ephemeral and fake and not really present in this world. But you look at Ben in that moment, over those 10 days, and I knew that this guy had the makings of a hero, or we wouldn't have been there with him. And so we didn't know until the end. But I was confident. I felt that he would do the right thing."

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