During an interview Wednesday night with Fox News’s Sean Hannity, Trump claimed that his thinking about FEMA had recently shifted, not the least bit because it sometimes helps people in liberal states and cities.
Hannity gently reminded the president that North Carolina also required funding from FEMA.
“You know, I had FEMA working really well, we had hurricanes in Florida, we had Alabama tornadoes, we had—but, unless you have certain types of leadership it’s really, it gets in the way,” Trump bragged.
“And FEMA is going to be a whole big discussion very shortly because I’d rather see the states take care of their own problems,” Trump said.
Trump’s fantasy that Oklahoma is somehow totally self-sufficient because it swung fully for him in the 2024 elections clearly defies all logic and reason. Between 2015 and 2024, Oklahoma received more than $48 million in FEMA funding.
It’s also possible that Trump is simply setting up a rhetorical worst-case scenario, a kind of kill-switch to get states to back off demands for disaster relief he doesn’t want to give. Keep asking and no one will get it.
Trump has been claiming that California needs to reform its environmental regulations since long before the devastating wildfires in Los Angeles, and FEMA funding has offered him a lever to try and enforce it. Republicans have followed suit, saying that they want to put conditions on aid for what House Speaker Mike Johnson desperately tried to repackage as a “man-made disaster.”
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